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mark upon what was technically called its snout he put it in a place where A. B. was known to cast for fish. The next morniing, among others, he took this identical salmon, which being found in his possession, he was tried, and transported for the offence; the judges being of opinion, that the salmon, having been in the market, could no longer be ranked among bona vacantia [a laugh]. This, however, was probably a solitary case. The principle of the present bill ought, in his opinion, to be wholesomely applied; and he could not help thinking, that if the noble lord who was the author of it, and the noble lord near him (lord Redesdale), were to lay their heads together, and make a bill, it would be better than pushing the present bill any further.

Lord Wharncliffe shortly replied. He had not, he said, by this bill taken away any old rights, and he had created no new ones, except that of allowing every one to kill game on his own land; and that he believed to be a right which every one ought to exercise. It had been errogeously stated, that, by the law of Scotland, no person could kill game on his own land without a qualification; there were many decisions upon this point, which put beyond a doubt the right of every body in this particular. By the law of Scotland, qualifications were only necessary upon another person's land. A noble baron opposite had descanted upon the many absurdities contained in the bill; but when it came before a committee, he should endeavour to convince that noble baron, that he had talked many more absurdities than he had ever accused him of writing. He begged their lordships to believe that he was not so fond of his own child as to regret its loss, simply because it was his; and if any other and better measure were submitted to their lordships, he would cheerfully relinquish his. At the same time, he was convinced that many years could not pass over with the present absurd, oppressive, and unjust laws in force.

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Wool. Two of the returns were similar to what had before been moved for by a noble lord; but the other was not comprehended among those that had been laid upon their lordships' table. In making this motion he wished to say a few words. Their lordships were aware, that a great deal of distress existed at present among the wool-growers, the accumulation of whose stock, for the last three years, remained on their hands, the value of which had sunk from 16d. to 8d. per pound. Perhaps their lordships might not be equally aware of the cause of this distress. One cause, he thought, was the reduction of the duty on the importation of foreign wool. At the time that reduction took place, it was generally considered to be a financial duty, and not a protecting one. But, if their lordships looked to the quantity of wool introduced into this this country during the five years, from April, 1819, to September, 1824, they would find, that the quantity of foreign wool imported amounted, on the average, to twenty-one millions, at a duty of 6d. Since the year 1824, at which period the duty was reduced from 6d. to a half-penny-a reduction at once of 11-12ths-the increase in the importation of wool amounted to seven or eight million pounds. Such being the case, it was impossible not to see the cause which produced the distress among the wool-growers. But the interest of the wool-growers was not a particular one; or one which was confined to themselves. Wool and corn were connected together; one depended upon the other. and fertile districts depended entirely upon the subsistence of the farmers flocks. He hoped that when their lordships took into consideration the measure which had been proposed upon the Corn-laws, they would also take into consideration the distressed state of the agriculturists, with respect to the wool-trade. Their lordships might form a just opinion, from seeing what had been the result of a foreign competition in the article of wool what was likely to be the result of the same competition in the corn trade. So long as the duty on wool continued to be 6d. the growers found a market for their wool; but as soon as that duty was reduced, the greatest distress followed. The glut produced by the importation of foreign wool had been so great, as to produce an accumulation of two or three years' growth of wool in the

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hands of individuals. With this before their eyes, he trusted their lordships would hesitate before they adopted the resolutions on the Corn-laws, and allowed the foreigner to come into competition with the British farmer in the corn-trade, as had been done in the wooltrade. He considered the wool-grower as much a manufacturer as the clothier. He must find capital, and the means of subsistence. On looking at the Consolidated Customs act, he found that as long as wool should be at the price of 1s., the duty on the importation of foreign wool should not exceed a half-penny, which gave a protection to the British grower of about four per cent. Wool in a manufactured state, however, he found to be protected by a duty of fifteen per cent. It certainly did seem, from that difference, that the clothier must have some stronger claims to protection than the wool-grower; but upon looking to the returns on the subject of the poor-rates for the years 1825 and 1826, he found that the poor-rates levied upon landlords amounted to 4,892,000l. while the amount of poor-rates levied on manufacturers was only 259,000l. So that it was clear that 241. out of 251. was paid by the landed interest. Looking at those returns, he could not find in them a reason for the disproportion of the duties upon wool in its simple state, and wool when manufactured. It appeared to him, that the disproportion ought to be in the inverse ratio to what it was; and that the man who bore the greatest burthens ought not to be the worst protected. It was a most unjust principle, as it operated on the one and the other. Perhaps their lordships were not aware of the extraordinary rate of the increase of the importation of wool, since the reduction of the duty. The importation of wool amounted, in the year 1824, to 19,378,000 pounds; in 1825 to 22,558,000 pounds; and in the year 1826 to 43,795,000. From that period he might say the wool-trade had been completely ruined; and if such had been the case with respect to wool, which formed only a portion of the farmer's profit, any similar measure, with respect to the Corn-laws must necessarily cause universal ruin. In Mr. Jacob's Report it was stated, that great exertions were making in Germany, with a view of raising wool and that prodigious increase in the quantity of wool had taken place in that tcountry. If that was the case, it

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could only end, in his opinion, in putting a termination to the cultivation of short wool in this country. At the time the duty on wool was lowered from 6d. to: one halfpenny, it was stated that, in consideration of the reduction, a bounty should be given to the landlords. And, what was this great bounty, did their lords ships suppose? It was, that the farmers should be allowed to export long wool, the amount of which did not exceed 90 tods. That was the only bounty which had been given, in return for the reduction of the duty on the importation of wool. He had no wish to injure the manufacturer. He was aware that the manufacturer could not continue to work wool without a mixture of foreign wool. He was ready to give a full proportion of foreign wool to the manufacturer for that purpose; and even to give him protection against the intro duction of worked wool; but he wished thes protection to be equal, and perhaps the noble lord opposite (Bexley) would tell him the reason why the protection was not better proportioned. It was n singular fact, that with this great increase! in the importation of wool, there had not been an accompanying increase in the exportation of manufactured wool.ds So that, instead of the foreigner taking manufactures from this country in ex change for this produce he took nothing) but money. So great had been the inst crease of the quantity of wool in the home market, that the landlords had got las: much as three years produce on their hands; and it was a great hardship on the farmer, having so much wool of his own, to look at his coat, and think that it was made of foreign wool. He apologized to their lordships for having taken up so much of their time, and he now begged leave to move for the returns he wished to be laid upon the table. Two of these! returns had been moved for before in point of fact, but not in point of time those on the table only going back to 1814, while those which he wished to move for went back to 1800. The noble lord then moved for a "Return of the quantity of sheep and lamb's wool im ported into this country since the year 1800 to 1824 inclusive; distinguishing the quantities of each year, and othe countries from which wool was imported. That motion came up to the time when the duty was lowered. The next return he should move for was, to show theins

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lordships whether the British consumer[ was benefitted by the new principles of free trade, as applicable to the woollentrade. He should therefore move, for "An account of the official and declared value of woollen manufactures from 1810 to 1826." The next return he should move for was, 66 an account of the quantity of foreign wool exported since the year 1821 to 1826, distinguishing each year." Lord Bexley said, that the noble lord appeared to him to be greatly deceived in one respect. The noble lord seemed to argue upon this question as if it was one which was founded on a new principle, and as if the encouragement of the importation of foreign wool was a novel system in this country. In the time of our ancestors that encouragement had been carried to a much greater extent than it was at present; we were only returning, ther therefore, to the system that formerly prevailed. The present system he believed would be found much more advantageous to the growers of wool, than that which existed immediately previous to it; and he must bring to the recollection of the noble lord, that the change took place in consequence of applications and petitions on the subject from the wool-growers themselves, who were allowed by it to export their long wool. The manufactyrers, the believed, had nothing to fear from the exportation of wool. England was still by far the best market for wool, and not only kept at home its own produce, but attracted to its market a large proportion of the produce of other countries.

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The Duke of Richmond felt himself bound to say a few words on this subject, upon which he had presented a number of petitions from the county of Sussex. As to the observation that had been made, that wool had been left on the hands of the grower, from the permission to import for the good of the manufacturers, he could only say, that that was one of the experiments of the free-trade gentlemen. It had, however, failed; and now they attempted to put a gloss over it. He hoped and trusted that the noble earl who had moved for these returns, would call the attention of the House to this important subject. He could not believe that it was beneficial to this country to allow a foreign grower to send us his produce. He thought it would be best for this country to go back to its former system.

Lord King stated, that the noble mover had made out what he thought a very strong case against free trade. He had expected to have heard the noble lord (Bexley)—if he was a friend to the general interests of the country, and a real friend to free trade-observe, that though there might have been some distress among the agriculturists, there had been great distress among the manufacturers; and that a higher duty, preventing the importation. of wool, would not have diminished the distress of the agriculturists, but would have added greatly to the distress of the manufacturers. It had been stated, that some of the wool remained on the hands of the growers. Perhaps that might be the case; but then the noble lord on the ministerial bench might have asked, whe ther the importation of wool continued? seeing that, if it did, it was because the wool was worked up. He had expected the noble lord, if he was a friend to the general interests of the country, to have made use of those arguments.If ministers did not defend the manufacturers, their interest would assuredly be neglected.sofw

The Earl of Darnley was for giving protection both to the growers of corn and wool. The growers of wool laboured under grievous hardships. They had two years of their stock on hand. Now, such a state of things ought not to exist. It was a gross injustice to that class of the community, and no adequate advantage to the manufacturers.

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The Marquis of Salisbury said, he had not intended to trouble their lordships with any observations on the subject, if a noble baron had not attempted to set in opposition the agricultural and manufac turing interests, by stating, that the one was sacrificed for the sake of the other. ["No," from lord King.] If the noble lord thought that the two interests were connected, he was sorry he had mistaken him. With respect to the question before their lordships, he must say, that when the farmers had two years produce in hand, and were unable to sell, except at a ruinous price, and when the foreigner was pouring his produce into this country, and taking nothing in return but money he must say, that if such a state of things was prosperous to the country, then was the present period most prosperous.

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ships were aware that any measure on the subject must be brought forward in another place; and in the irregularity of bringing the subject immediately under their lordships' consideration, there seemed to be a general acquiescence. It was, however, in the power of any noble lord who might wish to discuss the question, to move resolutions upon the subject. 112

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Lord Ellenborough said, that such a course would be equally irregular on the part of any other noble lord, as on the part of the noble earl who was absent. The noble lord had stated, that the House acquiesced in the suggestion not to discuss this question. The House, however, were obliged to acquiesce; seeing that no other noble lord opposite could have made an explanation on the subject.

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the Corn-laws. The House was in a very particular situation with respect to the discussion of that subject. After several sessions, during which the subject had been put off year after year, it at last seemed that no time was to be lost in putting the question at rest, and enabling the country to know at what price corn was to be grown. Resolutions had been moved elsewhere, which were to be followed by resolutions being moved in that House by a noble lord, who, by a catastrophe which no man lamented more than he did, had been prevented from so doing; but by that misfortune that House had been deprived of the only means it possessed of discussing this question, in the manner in which it could only be discussed with advantage. Because, if any bill were brought into this House, though their lord- Lord Redesdale observed, that when ships might agree to the principle of it, their lordships came to the consideration but differ with respect to the duty, yet of the Corn-laws, they must view the subthey dared not make any alteration in that ject as connected with a great many cir particular. The noble duke (on being re- cumstances. The profits of the farmer minded by lord Holland, that the House had been lowered by the importation of did not admit that principle) stated, that wool, and by the depressed price of tallow, if any alteration were made in the duties, on account of importation. Importation probably the whole of the measure would had had the same effect on hides and be lost. He hoped, therefore, that some skins, and cheese; and it was hardly worth resolutions would be laid upon the table, the farmer's while to continue their dairies. in order that the House might be enabled He agreed with the noble duke, that the to discuss the subject, and give their House ought to have an opportunity opinion upon it. With respect to the afforded it, of declaring its opinion on the subject of wool, he thought it a most ex- corn question; and if no other noble lord traordinary consolation to state, that when would undertake the task, he should himtwo years' stock of wool was on the hands self submit a motion on the subject to of the growers, the importation was going their lordships. The resolutions printed This consolation was a most extra-in the votes of the House of Commons ordinary one; and went in the teeth of appeared to be of this description-that the very mover of the measure-who had they fixed a maximum on the price of stated at a public meeting, that taking off corn. Did any writer on political economy, the duty on foreign wool would not hurt or any person who had thought upon the the home-grower, but that he would find subject, dream of such a plan? The exa better market for his produce. What, perience of past ages in this country proved, however, had been the result? Two years' that to fix a maximum on any commodity produce remained on the hands of the was injurious to the production of that growers! commodity. In the reign of Edward 2nd, a maximum was imposed on every thing; which law lasted about a year, when the cry of the country became so strong as to cause its repeal. If the effect of a maximum on other things was mischievous, it was still more impolitic when applied to com the maximum of which was now fixed at 60s. The decrease which had taken place in tallow, hides, skins, horns, and hoofs, had an effect to raise the price of meat for the butcher could no longer consider his fifth quarter as a just remuneration.

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The Earl of Westmorland said, he did not intend to trouble their lordships with arguments on the question before the House, but simply to reply to the noble duke as to the intention of his noble friend, whose absence he deeply regretted. His noble friend certainly had intended to submit resolutions to their lordships on the subject of the Corn-laws; but he had not, he believed, made up his mind in what way he could do it, so as to conform to the practice of the House. Their lord

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Lord Bexley said, that if the noble and learned lord's propositions were carried into effect, they would exclude all foreign commerce entirely.

The motion for the returns was then agreed to.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

Thursday, March 22.

CONVENTION WITH PORTUGAL.] Mr. Secretary Peel, in the absence of Mr. Secretary Canning, presented, by command of his Majesty, the following ghoid CONVENTION between his Majesty and her Royal Highness the Infanta Regent of Portugal, for providing for the maintenance of a Corps of British Troops, sent to Portugal, Dec. 1826; signed at Brighthelmstone, Jan. 19, 1827, was li "In the name of the Most Holy and Undivided Trinity.

Their lordships, perhaps, might not know | introduction of any measure on the subthat the butcher derived his profit from ject. the fifth quarter. He sold his meat at the same rate per pound at which he bought the cattle from the agriculturist, and the · fifth quarter was his profit. But the butcher now, in order to get a profit, must place an additional price on his meat. Supposing, as some political economists had coolly contemplated, that one-third of the land now in cultivation were to be thrown out, what would be the consequence? Some people imagined that it would make meat cheaper; but if they examined the subject practically, they would find it would make meat dearer. In the act of Charles 2nd, he believed they would find the true system of political economy. If they did not make the trade of the farmer profitable, the country would not be cultivated; and, under these circumstances, he thought the subject required more consideration than his majesty's ministers had given it. The noble lord, after contrasting the present system of cultivation with that formerly adopted, said it was only wonderful, that corn should be sold at its present reduced price in this country, which was only because the farmer was satisfied with a less profit than the "Her Royal Highness the Infanta Remanufacturer. The noble lord, after ad-gent of Portugal having, in consequence of verting to the duties on wool, observed, that the whole system of commerce was now changed. Unlike the merchants of former days, who, habited in their velvet caps and square-toed shoes, dwelt with their clerks at the counting-house in the city, our modern merchants resided in Portland-place, or Portman-square, or in the Regent's park; and such were the multiplicity of their other engagements, that it was with difficulty they could get to their counting-house in time to sign the letters, of which they could know nothing, as they were prepared by their confidential clerk, to whom the management of the business was consigned. It was this extreme way of carrying on business that required an extreme profit beyond that which in former times sufficed.

The Earl of Malmesbury said, he was happy to hear that the learned lord intended to submit some resolutions to that House on the subject. He was perfectly ready to meet his majesty's government in any modification of the Corn-laws; but he thought it would be a great advantage that the sentiments of their lordships should be well known, previous to the

aggressions committed against the Portuguese territory, claimed the fulfilment, by his Majesty the King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, of the ancient treaties of alliance and friendship which subsist between the two Crowns; and his Britannic Majesty having thereupon resolved to send, and having actually sent, a body of troops to Portugal, the two High Contracting Parties think it necessary to agree upon certain arrangements for the maintenance of the said troops, during their stay in Portugal, and have named as their plenipotentiaries for that purpose, viz;

"His Majesty, the King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, the right hon. George Canning, a member of his said Majesty's most hon. Privy Council, a member of Parliament, and his said Majesty's Principal Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs :-And her Royal Highness the Infanta Regent of Portugal, the most illustrious and most excellent lord, Don Pedro de Souza e Holstein, marquis of Palmella, a peer of the Kingdom of Portugal, Grand Cross of the Order of Christ, knight of the Order of the Golden

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