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General Eberhart, did USNORTHCOM have a role in the formulation of the fiscal year 2004 budget, especially as it pertains to the equipping and operational funding of units that could be called upon to support your defensive operations?

Answer. Yes. USNORTHCOM's requirements were coordinated with the Office of the Secretary of Defense, the Joint Staff, and the Services during development of the fiscal year 2004 budget.

Question. Do you provide budget input in the form of an Integrated Priority List?

Answer. Yes. USNORTHCOM submitted an Integrated Priority List.

Question. What are your top unfunded requirements?

Answer. Our biggest unfunded challenges are in the following areas:

Fiscal Year 2003 Unfunded Challenges

• USNORTHCOM Headquarters Phase II Military Construction

• FAA Interior Radar Sustainment

• National Capital Region Integrated Air Defense

• Manpower

Fiscal Year 2004 Unfunded Challenges

• USNORTHCOM Headquarters Phase II Military Construction

• FAA Interior Radar Sustainment

• Mobile Consolidated Command Center

• Reconfiguration of Cheyenne Mountain Operations Center consistent with mission changes

Question. Is Operation NOBLE EAGLE, the protective combat air patrol the Continental United States, fully funded for the current fiscal year, in the fiscal year 2004 request?

Answer. We are analyzing various options for Operation NOBLE EAGLE over long term. When this analysis is completed, we will be better able to determine if our requirements are fully funded for the current and next fiscal year.

Question. What additional flexibility in control of resources, budget formulation and execution, and in acquisition procedures would help USNORTHCOM to better accomplish its mission?

Answer. It is too soon to tell what resource and acquisition changes are warranted, if any, to support USNORTHCOM. We will have a better understanding of these issues after we reach full operational capability.

Contractor Support

Question. General Eberhart, a topic which frequently surfaces in the media is the degree to which various government agencies depend on contractor support for analysis, and literally, in operating the organization, even in forward deployed war zones. Recently for example, the heavy dependence on contractor support to NASA has been discussed at length.

General Eberhart, to what extent do you augment your headquarters staff with contractor personnel?

Answer. We use contractors with skill sets and experience levels not resident within our staff. We employ 266 full-time contractors in USNORTHCOM, which is approximately 23 percent of the total workforce. We anticipate this number will grow in the next several months as we work toward full operational capability. Even after government employees with the correct skill sets are hired, we will rely heavily on contractors.

Question. What tasks or functions are supported by contractors?

Answer. Our contractors provide a broad range of support, to include building security, planning, intelligence, engineering and technical services. We have contractors on shift supporting 24-hour watch duty, as well as day-to-day operations in each of our directorates.

Question. How do you ensure oversight and quality in work performed by contractors?

Answer. For every contract or task order, we appoint a trained Quality Assurance Evaluator to assess the contractors' work products and ensure deliverables are within the scope and terms of the contract or task order. Each contract and task order specifies security clearance requirements. All contractor security clearances are verified through the USNORTHCOM Directorate of Intelligence.

USNORTHCOM's RDT&E And Procurement Requirements

Question. Are there any unique Research, Development, Test and Evaluation or Procurement items in the fiscal year 2004 budget request that apply to USNORTHCOM's mission?

Answer. Yes, the FY 2004 budget includes three projects, which support USNORTHCOM's mission.

• Combatant Commander Integrated Command and Control System (CCIC2S). CCIC2S will provide for the integration of Missile Warning and Missile Defense Systems. It will improve event correlation, attack characterization, and event reporting. CCIC2S is a procurement line item.

• Battle Control System (BCS). BCS will fuse military and FAA sensor data into a Common Operational Picture. It will provide management of a minimum of 10,000 active flight plans with connectivity of data from at least 200 sensors. BCS is a procurement line item.

• Homeland Security/Homeland Defense Command and Control Advanced Concept Technology Demonstration (HLS/D C2 ACTD). HLS/D C2 ACTD is an RDT&E initiative to provide a trusted information-sharing environment and command and control tools to homeland security and homeland defense decision makers. It will increase interoperability among DoD organizations and federal and state agencies.

USNORTHCOMs Chemical, Biological, Radiological And Nuclear (CBRN)

Threat Mission

Question. Please describe for us what, if any, involvement USNORTHCOM has in the area of detection and decontamination against chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear threats.

Answer. USNORTHCOM would direct the military response to CBRN events within the Command's AOR. If needed, we would have operational control of response forces such as the Chemical Biological Incident Response Force and the National Guard WMD-CSTs (Title 10 status only).

Question. What CBRN detection, protection, and decontamination equipment is assigned to USNORTHCOM?

Answer. No CBRN detection, protection, or decontamination equipment is organic to USNORTHCOM. However, fully equipped CBRN forces will be assigned to USNORTHCOM, as required.

Question. Are there any unfunded requirements for USNORTHCOMs JTF-CS CBRN mission?

Answer. No, all JTF-CS CBRN mission requirements are fully funded.

Question. Does USNORTHCOM conduct CBRN threat reaction training?

Answer. USNORTHCOM does not conduct CBRN threat reaction training. In accordance with their Title 10 responsibilities, the Services provide CBRN unit and individual training, as required.

[clerk's Note.—End of questions submitted by Mr. Lewis.]


Wednesday, April 30, 2003.



General Charles R. Holland, Commander, United States SpeCial Operations Command, United States Air Force

Command Master Cfflef Richard M. Rogers, United States SpeCial Operations Command, United States Navy

Harry Schulte, Senior Acquisitive Executive, United States Special Operations Command

Sergeant Fhtst Class Mike Mcllheny, United States Special Operations Command, United States Army


Mr. Lewis. The Committee will come to order.

The Committee welcomes today General Charles R. Holland, Commander, United States Special Operations Command.

General Holland, I want to welcome you here today. This is a very special meeting for this Committee. We intend to spend as much time as necessary reviewing your budget, reviewing missions past and prospective missions perhaps as well, but most importantly Special Operations Forces has gotten the level of attention and understanding in recent months that I think has not ever existed in the general community, also not existed in some parts of the building across the river.

All of us share together the impact upon the country of that attack that was experienced by our Nation on September 11, 2001. One important part of that attack took place 5 miles away from where we are sitting. Indeed, I have been reminded of that statement of a Japanese admiral following Pearl Harbor who turned and said, I am afraid we may have awakened a sleeping giant. There is little doubt that the American public has reacted to that experience in a very special way.

The Global War on Terrorism that the President has formulated and so well articulated is a part of our current existence. We have just been through a piece of that experience in both Afghanistan as well as Iraq. During all of that, the performance of the men and women who make up our Special Operations Forces is not just to be commended but is a fabulous reflection of just how great this country is.

We are going to have a session here that will last for as long as the members choose to ask questions, and then we will be recessing for a little bit and go upstairs to discuss other matters that can't be discussed even in this closed session.


I am not going to go into any further extended remarks. But we will have questions as we go forward, and I am sure other members will ask you to provide information by way of the record.

Let me call on my colleague Mr. Murtha.

Remarks Of Mr. Murtha

Mr. Murtha. I just want to say one thing. I have never seen a guy with black hair that had so many stripes on his arm. That is the youngest Master Chief I have ever seen. You just look young, or are you young?

Master Chief ROGERS. Sir, I knew this baby face would come in handy.

Mr. Lewis. Let me call on our chairman, Mr. Young.

Remarks Of Mr. Young

Mr. YOUNG. Well, Mr. Chairman, thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to welcome the General and all of his colleagues who are here with him today.

General, as we discussed earlier last week, Doug and I spent quite a bit of time in the region in Qatar and in Afghanistan and have spent a lot of time with General Franks, and I have got to tell you that everyone we talked with, including your Commander there, but especially those who are not related directly, could not say anything but the greatest accolades for what your forces have done and how you changed the whole battlefield. And I just wanted to put that on the record and congratulate you and everybody that works for you. You did just a super job, and are still doing a super job there.

Mr. Lewis. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. General Holland, we are here to review your budget as well as to have exchanges that I have mentioned. We will be happy to take your entire statement in the record, and please proceed.

Summary Statement Of General Holland

General Holland. Mr. Chairman, Congressman Murtha and distinguished members of the Committee, before I even start with my opening remarks, I would like to make just a few comments about the two men seated next to me. Harry Schulte is our Senior Acquisition Executive. When you think about Special Operations Command making a difference for our people out in the field, it is a fact that we have a plan where we can very quickly get equipment to the people in the field, and Harry Schulte is the man that makes that happen within the command.

On my right is my Senior Enlisted Adviser. This man is going to get ready to transition at the end of August. He is beyond his mandatory retirement date, and he volunteered to stay on with me during my tour here as the Combatant Commander of Special Operations Command.

And also seated behind me is Sergeant First Class Mike Mcllheny, who was with Karzai during that very important mission in Afghanistan, and, yes, he is wounded—he sustained a debilitating injury—is here today. I want all of you to know he has reenlisted in our United States Army. These are the types of people I

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